Why does a book prove itself by saying it is true?

Question by Archangel of Blasphemy: Why does a book prove itself by saying it is true?
The only “proof” for the bible I have ever heard was that the bible said it was true.
How can a book prove itself by saying that it is true.
And what non-strawman arguments can you give for the proof of Christianity.
Blind faith is worse than death in my eyes.

Best answer:

Answer by Agua Viva
First evidence of reliability: The Biblical texts correctly fit into their historical context. They mention real historical figures and events. This does not automatically make them reliable, but it adds credibility to the stories presented. An example is that the strange behavior of Pontius Pilate becomes immediately reasonable and understandable when one considers how the Sejanus conspiracy would have left him in an uneasy position in which he would have had to cave-in to the demands of a group of people that he despised.

Second evidence of reliability: The Biblical texts have been well-preserved(I’m speaking about the New Testament, but a case can also be made for the Old). The scholarly consensus is that the manuscripts that we now have reached us in nearly pristine form. While it is true that a few minor interpolations have been detected, they have been removed from modern editions of the Bible. What’s more, they were never of a variety that significantly altered Christian thinking to begin with. Historically speaking, the Bible is the best possible evidence of and source of information about Jesus Christ.

Third evidence of reliability: multiple witnesses. The Bible was written by numerous distinct authors yet remains remarkably consistent in its message. Even if it were somehow possible to completely discredit one or several of the Biblical authors, Christianity could continue. Some religions such as Islam or Mormonism cannot make this claim (since if either Mohamed or Joseph Smith were shown to be dishonest their religions would collapse).

Fourth evidence of reliability: Extra-Biblical testimony. Thousands of documents exist that corroborate the Christian account of Jesus’s ministry and the formation of the Bible. These texts began to be written in the late first century. No other book has so much documentation of how it was written and organized.

Fifth evidence of reliability: Prophecy. This is perhaps difficult for an outsider to buy into, but prophecy always played an important role in Jewish culture. Its fulfillment served to authenticate that the words of the prophets came from God. Many aspects of Old Testament prophecy have been fulfilled. A lot of the prophecy spoken by Jesus has also come to pass. For example, Jesus predicted that his message would not be understood by many, that it would be a cause of division, that his followers would be ridiculed and attacked, and that we would receive the Holy Spirit.

Sixth evidence of reliability: The Holy Spirit. Unfortunately, this form of evidence is completely inaccessible to non-believers. It is the manner in which we have contact with God. It convinces us of the truth and reality of the God of the Bible. It is what allows us to make the leap from belief to faith.

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3 thoughts on “Why does a book prove itself by saying it is true?

  1. In order to understand how the bible can prove itself true (seemingly circular logic) you must understand what the bible is.

    First it is more than one book written by more than one author compiled into a single volume. Second it contains eyewitness accounts. Two to Three eyewitnesses in agreement is enough to prove something true in a court of law. The bible contains way more than three, it is an entire volume full of eyewitnesses at different times and in different places and their experience with the Lord. Dismissing it would be like a Jury throwing out the entire court transcript with the testimony of hundreds of witnesses and saying “there is no evidence”.

    It is like a well sourced scientific text. And He who inspired and Whom the volume is about is available to give future proof as He sees fit.

  2. The readers should be able to differentiate between truth and error, or else they are just blind followers of ignorance.

  3. First of all, there is no “Book.” The bible is an Anthology. It is a selection of books among several hundred books that were once used to discuss many of the Christian faiths. These books were written over a period of 1500 years, in different countries and largely by authors that remain unknown to this day. None of the books were contemporary to the times of Jesus.

    The new testament has 27 books. I submit to you that the validity of each book must be established individually. This of course would mean tracking down the authors to each of the books at the very least. We can automatically throw away anything attributed to Moses as there was no Moses, there were never slaves in Egypt and the Exodus never happened. That may be the first five books of the Old Testament but it has real ramifications for the books of the New Testament. Any reference at all to the old testament is based on false information.

    “If you open a Bible today, you see books titled ‘The Gospel according to Matthew,’ ‘The Gospel according to Mark,’ and so on for Luke and John.

    In fact, the Gospels are all anonymous – they don’t actually say who wrote them. But:….”

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eyA8Fak7-40J:www.facingthechallenge.org/gospels.php+who+really+wrote+matthew&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

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